Information and Pictures about Wiederhold ancestors

Created and scanned in 2004/2006, 2008, 2010, 2011 by Gio Wiederhold.

The address of this web page is Last updated 11 Aug 2015.
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I have a copy of a large collection of genealogical Wiederhold Documents (about 1200 pages) originally collected into 12 handbound typed books by Alfred Wiederhold over a long period (1930-1985). These have now been scanned in, and copied to a Compact Disc (CD). I can make copies of the CD available to people interested in the genealogy of the Wiederhold family. Send me email. Copies of the charts only - which had very small fonts -- are attached to this web page.
The description of the book is periodically updated to reflect progress .

I have been entering names, dates, and occupation from those book into a computer-based system, Family Tree Buider, focusing initially on my ancestors, as documented in the Felsberg volumes, but expanding to more branches, as the Homberg volume branches leading to Konrad Wiederhold, see below, and the ancestors that went to the spice islands - the Netherlands East Indies, now Indonesia, and to South America. Ancestors that went to the US is was documented in further volumes, and is being entred piecemeal, as branches can be connected. Most information from the current tree has been copied to an on-line file at . For privacy reason Wiederholds that may still be alive are shown there as unknown. If people give permission I can make them known.

Cleaning all the data and creating a complete computer family file will be more work than I can promise to finish ever.

My ancestors go back to back to 1441 in those records, when a Nikolaus Wyderolt paid a fee of `drei neue Groschen' (30 cents!) to enroll in the University of Erfurt. There is also a possible linkage here to Gio's academic genealogy.

There are some earlier Wiederhold records as well, but those have not been linked, and any links are likely tentative. An interesting branch of my Wiederhold ancestors links to the Droz family, clock, watch, and mechanical puppet makers (androids) in La Chaux-de-Fonds, Switzerland. I have also collected information from my mother's side, the Tuybens family. Those settled with the VOC in Ternate, now Indonesia, primarily using records at Royal Dutch Archives in the Hague, Holland.

The origin of the name Wiederhold

The name Wiederhold, although it sounds like the German word for `repeat', actually derives from

  1. Widder, a ram (male goat)
  2. holde, an ancient word for beautiful, actually a `stately beauty'. The word still be encountered in poetry or in Wagner operas, as where the singer is admiring `Die holde Freya', the beautiful maiden Freya.
Evidence for this explanation is supported by the coat of arms. There are several variations, but they all show a ram with flowers or cloverleaves somewhere, to add the beauty.
However, the Homburg coat of Arms also depicts a golden `Widerholz'. That is a piece of wood (`Holz') to let animals pull plows or carriages. But not all coat-of-arms (not yet scanned) show a Widerholz.

A 1460 citation mentions that a trumpeter named Wedterolde brought some sick horses from Homburg to Kassel - to a veterinarian, I hope. Many other ancestors had the profession of `Färber', cloth dyer; `Landwirt' or `Ackermann', farmer; `Lehrer', Teacher; `Pfarrer', preacher; `Schmied', Smith; `Schultheiss', sherriff; or `Vogt', estate manager.

Scans of the Genealogy pages

Several lines of Wiederhold's were recorded by Alfred Wiederhold, although they all are likely related further back, since they all come from the same area in central Germany. The oldest line is `Felsberg', other main lines, all from neighboring towns, are H for `Hesssenroede', I for `Helmshausen', etc. Second letters are sublines, as I for for `Helmshausen', G for 'Gensungen, R for `Rhuende', etc. There'll be more as more tables are entered.

A second, larger, set of ancestry records is from Homberg, an early branch line, split about 1480 from my direct ancestors. That line leads, among others, to the Wiederhold lines in Chile and in Malakka and Indonesia. I summarized one Wiederhold Chile branch in
Osorno, Chile linkage and am adding a second branch soon. I also placed on the web printed charts from the Family Tree software, namely
Ancestors of the Wiederhold who went from Germany to Chile (needs updating) and also known descendants of that Ancestor. I appreciate information about current descendants. Many are are on Facebook,, in a group "My Name is Wiederhold".

I plan to do similar listings for the East Indies, Oregon, Texas, and Michigan Wiederholds, but it all takes some time. I can make my Family Tree Maker file available to anyone who has compatible software (.FTW or .GED). The current .FTW version is about 3.5Mbytes, the .GED files are much smaller, see below. I asssume GED doesn't keep all the information.

I am going through the detailed source material (11 books af Alfred's with text and charts for each family subline) and other information that Wiederhold people have provided or that I have found on the web. I will select text that is relevant to the sublines I have summarized and scan them in, and place them on the web. I have now scanned all the charts in and, after some editing and marksups, will place them on the web as I finish them. The source pages for the charts were large, and had tiny typing. They have been scanned on a very-high resolution scanner, and many source charts become file with 4 or more pdf pages. In general the pages are arranged arranged top-left, top-right, bottom-left, bottom-right.

    (some files are now arranged top-left, top-right, bottom-right, bottom-left; I'll fix those when I can).
The top-right page has the family line identification. The pages scans in a file overlap, to help in matching the pages, I added red blocks to identify identical entries.
In the tables Roman numerals on the left identify generation numbers, starting around 1450.

When an entry says just `Sohn' (son) or `Tochter' (daughter) then little is known about that person. That happens often when children died young - very common in older times. Also, later children were sometimes given the same name as children that died earlier.

The files are identified using a code: WqqnnTaPa+yystart-yyend or WV##descriptor@placename+yystart-yyend, Where:

To see if you are a descendant in one of the available current charts:
  1. Use a birthdate of a Wiederhold parent or grandparent,
  2. Go to a file that spans that that birthdate.
  3. If a place of origin is known, go first to files with that primary @placename, but people did move about.
  4. Look on the bottom pages for that parent or grandparent. Siblings apear left to right. The first names appear below the sibling number. Below are the birth and death dates, then oo marriage date(s), the spouse's names (both first and family) and dates, the profession, and where they lived.
  5. When birthdates are imprecise, the place of birth or death may help.
  6. If not found on that spanning file, go to the next file that spans the birthdate.
  7. If you have found an entry for a parent/grandparent, trace up and note the birthdate of the eldest ancestor on that page.
Note that Wiederhold lines are terminated in the charts when there were no sons.

It's all in German, of course, and often abbreviated, click to find lists of common abbreviations for names, professions, and towns, as well as some background information. Do send me an email if you found your ancestors, and I'll add an annotation; that will make it easier to find related families. Also let me know if there are problems with any of the pages. It is easy to get them messed up

The current files are from 200K to 3 500K bytes, less than 500Kb if size is not given.
You may need to increase the magnification percentage to read the fine print.
@Felsberg WFF1TaPa+1435-1696, Gio's early ancestors;
@Felsberg-Helmshausen 1 WFI1TaPa+1682-1945, Theodor W. went to the US and Juergen W. moved to Switzerland;
@Felsberg-Helmshausen 2 WFI2TaPa+1682-1970, Gio's ancestors, others went to South Africa;
@Felsberg-Helmshausen 3 WFI3TaPa+1682-1944, Ernst Christian August W. went to Chile in 1852(check), Konrad W. went to the US. The common ancestor with Gio is Adam!, born 1657, who had 7 children;
@Gensungen 1 WFG1TaPa+1659-1973, a Dutch branch (Enschede) and Canadian immigrants;
@Gensungen 2 WFG2TaPa+1659-1925, a daughter went to the US;
@Rhunda 1 WFR1TaPa+1674-1981, Johannes Georg W. went to Holland around 1820, family settled around Utrecht;
@Rhunda 2 WFR2TaPa+1674-1949, two brothers, Johannes Georg W. and Wilhelm W. went to the US; Wilhelm had at least two sons, but their names are not shown.
@Helmsungen 1 WHH1TaPa+1660-1976, Johannes went to Holland, but grandson Frits went to Austria;
@Helmsungen 2.1 WHH2.1TaPa+1660-1985;
@Helmsungen 2.2 WHH2.2TaPa+1725-1975, Karl-Heinz went to Australia, Hannelore to the US;
@Helmshausen F WII1TaPa+1684-1968;

Homberg Charts, from 3 Volumes, partial
Integrated charts for the primary Homberg ancestry, covers Rochester NY (p.11), a second line of Wiederholds in Chile (p.15: Heinrich Wilhelm W. in 1855 - check), and to the East Indies (p 16,18,19: around 1750). 4.62Mbytes;
Volume 1 WH1Ab@Reichenberg charts for Homberg-Reichenberg, to be augmented from Vol.2, 0.57Mbytes;
Integrated WH1Ac@Ziegenhain&Steinach charts for Homberg-Ziegenhain, 1.47Mbytes; to be rearranged, contains the entry for the Hohentwiel defender, Konrad Wiederhold.
Volume 1 charts for Homberg-Niederbrechen, to be augmented from Vol.2, 0.63Mbytes;
Volume 1 charts for Homberg-Frielendorf, to be augmented from Vol. 2. Leads to Werswiger & Lanertshausen lines, 0. 57Mbytes;
Charts for WH1HochAdel showing Wiederhold nobility, 0.43Mbytes;

Various, yet unconnected charts, in 4 volumes:1-6. I added indications to the file names when there were emigrations shown.
WV07@Herzberg-Wien+1790-1980. Karl Wilhem, preacher, settled in Cincinnati (1897). Max from Frankfurt *1889, has a daughter, Paula, who was an opera singer in Wien.
WV08@USA_MO-NEappAcSteXIV-3+1893-1983. Some went to the US in Missouri and Colorado, to be linked;
WV11@LanertshausenAppAELANX-1+16751981, Johannes *1853 went to US, California, had a hotel, returned? Gustav *1882, went to US, San Francisco, to be linked;
WV12@US_MI-IL-CAappAeLanX1+1809-1956. went to US Michigan and Illinois, to be linked;
WV13@Lanertshausen-Canada-US_MIappendAeLanX1+1809-1973. Some went to Canada and US Michigan, to be linked;
WV14Wetterhold@lorenzen+1695-1983; Elke ~1950 student in UA, Alabama;
WV15Winterholt-Winterhalder-Widderholt@miltenberg+1480-1993. Various spellings likely to have been Wiederholds;
WV16@Neuenheerse-US_Lou-MN+~1742-1937. Aloys Wiederhold *1901 US, in New Orleans, MN;
WV17@Neukirchen+1560-1895; Ludwig Ch. W. *1815 went to NY, Notary.
WV18@Niederaula-USA_ILappACSteXII2+1805-1947. Mainly US settlers, to be linked;
WV19@US_Mo-MD-MI-IL-W_SiberiaAppA-IX6+1506-1982. US, all over, also Florida, and Siberia, linked to likely same ancestor Jacob, dod 1477, in WFF1TaPa+1435-1696;
WV20@normandie-US_MI@1612-1982. Wiederholds who went to the US via France;
WV21@US_MI+1902-1983.pdf. Wiederholds to Michigan;
WV22@Frickenhausen-US_MI-ID+1683-1962.pdf; Wiederholds to Michigan and Idaho.
WV24@Obertramm-France+1786-1980.pdf; Settled in France, near Mulhouse.
WV29@Udenhausen+1675-1983.pdf; Samuel *1817 went to US had 348 descendants. Some in Deanville.
End of charts from Volume 1 of Verschiedene Wiederholds, now Volume 2.
WV34@Breitenworbis+1664-1932.pdf. (of intrest to Thomas Wiederhold, Guatemala)
WV39@Grossbartloff-Cleveland-McAllen Texas +1800-1977.pdf.
End of charts from Volume 2 of Verschiedene Wiederholds, now Volume 3, part.
WV52@MTaddstoWHH+1893-1983.pdf. Corrections to a chart not yet in. To be mwrged when possible.
WV53Widderhold@Korbach+1243-1400.pdf. Contains yet unconnected very early Wiederholds from a region 50km north.
WV54Wedderold@Korbach.pdf. Contains yet unconnected very early Wiederholds.
WV55@Lanertshausen-add-USA+1723-1976.pdf Contains many US Wiederholds. File is over 5MB.

More Vol. 3 Verschiedene Orte.

VW3-26 Lauterberg orig.
VW3-27-28 Neuenheersee orig
VW3-29-30 more Neuenheersee orig.
VW3-31-32 more Neuenheersee orig.
WVb3-27-34@Neuenheersee+1743-1937 Neuenheersee combined.
VW3-33(35)-36 Niederaula Orig.
VW3-37045 Niedergrenzebach.
VW3-378046 Niedergrenzebach Nachtrag orig; to USA, Orgon and Washington.
VW3-39-40047 Udenhausen part 1 orig.
VW3-41-42048 Udenhausen part 2 orig.
VW3-43049 Udenhausen Nachtrag orig, moved to Texas, many children.
VW3-44TX050 Udenhausen Text orig.
VW3-48051 more Helgershausen and Udenhausen orig.
VWb3-51-52 @Volksmarsen orig.
VW3-52-532052 more Volksmarsen orig.

Now charts from Verschiedene Orte, Vol.4<

V4-01010@Dingelstedt-1758x3 combined charts .
V4-13016@Kefferhausen1692, combined charts .
V4-14017@Grossbartloff-1788, combined charts .
V4-65033@Steinbach-gregor1707, combined charts .
V4-68034@Grosswerther-1795, combined charts .
V4-71037@Koenigsberg-Charles1826, combined charts .
V4-73038@Nordhausen, combined charts .
V4-75039@Triessen Switzerland, chart.
ListOfSourceFilesfromVO-Vol4forWeb, combined into the other 8 charts in this section..

Processed Data

I have entered my ancestor records into a genealogy program (Family Tree Maker), and make a copy of it available here:

Gio ancestors FTW file, updated 2 September 2009. I have later copies. not yet uploaded.
It now also includes branches to the Osorno and Hedrich von Widerhold descendants, as well as the linkage to Konrad Widerhold of the Hohenwiel. The first two sections (A, Aa) of Alfred's Felsenberg 1 book are complete as is Section Aa of the Homburg 1 book.

I have also exported earlier the data as a GED standard file, but that format does not capture all the information in the source: Gio ancestors GED file, as of August 2009.
Over time I'd like to add more branches (uncles etc. ) as well, but that will take much time.


There are also a few pictures now on the web:

  1. The Homburg Wiederhold coat of arms, as it appear(s/ed) over the entrance to a `Keller', a restaurant below the castle Reichenberg, near St. Goarshausen, Germany.
  2. The Homburg Wiederhold coat of arms, drawn, as it appeared on the entrance of the Keller.
  3. A copy of a depiction of the coat-of-arms in the Hessisch Familien Kunde, April-Juni 1969, Band 9, Heft 6, by Hermann Knodt and Heinz Ritt.
  4. The Felsberg Wiederhold coat of arms, as it appear(s/ed) on the portal of a hospital in Kassel, Germany
  5. The Felsberg Wiederhold coat of arms, drawn, as it appeared on a seal attached to a document.
  6. A color picture made in the 1950's following those coat of arms images.
  7. Gio's grandfather, Erich Wiederhold, Generation XV #9 in Gio's chart, owner of a factory near Frankfurt, about 1939.
  8. A Drawing of a great-great grand uncle of Gio, Franz Schmidt; actually a grand uncle of Erich Wiederhold on his mother's side. He was the representative of a region in Schlesien (now Silesia) in the aborted German parliament in 1848. He had to flee in 1849, first to Switzerland and then to St. Louis, MO, where he started a German Lyceum/Gymnasium, which still semms to exist [per Arthur Wiederhold]. When he got sick, he went to Cuba for the better climate, but died there.
  9. The most famous Wiederhold is Konrad Wiederhold. Konrad Wiederhold (1598-1667) was born in Ziegenhain, about 50km north of Fulda. In 1615 he became a mounted soldier and Musketier for the German sea-faring states of Bremen and Hamburg. He married well - a Burkhart - and in 1617 joined the army of Venice. Subsequently Konrad joined the military of Wuertemberg, a state in South-Western Germany. In 1634 he became commander of their most important fortress, the Hohentwiel. The Duke of Wuertemberg fled to Strassburg, but Konrad, a fervent Protestant, stayed on independently [German Wikipedia]. After the wars he was given substantial landholdings and became a nobleman. It seems that he had no children so current Wiederhold's can only claim him as a remote uncle.
  10. The castle that Konrad Wiederhold defended during the 30-years war is called the Hohentwiel, is a popular tourist destination in South-Western Germany. The castle is built on the central basalt stem of a long extint volcano. The castle protected the region during the thirty-years' war (1618 to 1648). Konrad Wiederhold was the castle master during that time. The castle was never conquered. Around 1790 the castle was turned over to the "new forces of liberty", emanating from France, but the French decided to blow it up in 1800, but many of the 3 foot or more thick walls remain. It is located near the town of Singen. The hike up follows the Wiederholdweg to the main gate. There is also a Widerholdstrasse and a Hotel Wiederhold in Singen. Many pictures are on Google Earth if you serach for `Singen, Germany'.

I welcome comments and additions.